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Remembering Simplified Hanzi 1: Book 1: How Not to Forget the Meaning and Writing of Chinese Characters (英语) 平装

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平均5.0 星 works and it is fast 2009年11月29日
评论者 Amazon Customer - 已在美国亚马逊上发表
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This is a system for learning all 3000 Mandarin Chinese simplified characters. The most frequently used 1000 characters appear in the first volume of 1500 characters. Otherwise, the book is organized to provide a framework for remembering characters without any attempt to teach the most common characters first. The disadvantage is that horse and mama are characters 1453 and 1454 while they may be one of the first ten words you learn in other textbooks. You have to finish the book to get all the basic characters under your belt. The advantage is that you have a strictly logical framework to learn the characters and you learn them very fast and remember them.

Since, I probably could have learned the 1500 characters in 3 weeks if I had 8 hours per day to put into it, it's not such a big deal that basic characters come late.

Other books teach common words first, but at the expense of providing a strictly logical framework of radicals and concepts. The book is good because it sticks to the framework and the framework is an incredibly powerful tool to remember the characters.

I've seen criticism about the lack of pronunciation and they are silly.

1) The book suggests you to make flash cards (and that is essential to the method). It provides the pronunciations in an index which you could add to the flashcards. None of the other books like this provide more than that.

2) I am not really going to learn Chinese pronunciation from a book. I'm using videos and cd's for that.

I tried for a couple of weeks to learn chinese without this framework, and I could not keep any character straight for more than three days. So I don't see any way to learn Chinese without a framework.

My strategy is to learn a framework for remembering the English meaning of the characters early in the process. The book doesn't stand alone, but it isn't intended to. It is intended take one huge hurdle to learning Chinese (the alphabet is 3000 characters long!!!) off the table in a few weeks or months.

I've seen criticisms that the book doesn't include the most common words in the first book, and that is wrong.

The book doesn't work for my 6 year old because the stories and tag words target adults. We are using Tuttle and other methods with her. But if you are an educated adult and you want an intelligent and logical framework for remembering the meaning of Chinese characters that is really efficient, this is the book.

The book is based on techniques to memorize that are useful beyond chinese. It's a reasonably common method that incorporates visualization and stories, but applying it to this herculean task with such tremendous effects will give you new insight and appreciation into how your memory works. It is a fun and very interesting process. It is not a all like memorizing 1500 squiggly line patterns, which is where I started.

I have seen reviews misrepresent the facts or the purpose of the book and that motivated me to write this review. This is an excellent book. I am having a blast. I am learning Chinese at level and speed I never even hoped for when I started.
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平均5.0 星 Prequel to learning Chinese 2013年10月20日
评论者 Eileen K Carpenter - 已在美国亚马逊上发表
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I'm now a few chapters into the book and a few units into the first Pimsleur audio course in Mandarin, after dealing with my husband walking around the house reciting Chinese for his classroom Mandarin courses the last few years.

My observations so far: Learning the spoken language before learning the written language may work for toddlers, but it isn't going to work for me. Maybe younger people can hear the subtle differences in sibilants, but I can't without seeing the pinyin. But the pinyin aren't going to be useful as long-term way to remember the words, since there are so many homophones. And since Chinese is not an Indo-European language, there are no helpful cognates to cling to. Everything is unfamiliar and must be memorized, and it all sounds like nonsense until you repeat it over and over.

Learning the characters seems even more intimidating -- thousands of different non-phonetic characters needed in order to read the language! Looking at a page of written Chinese looks like a bunch of squiggles. The characters for common words are complex and don't resemble each other. No wonder so many people just want to stick with pinyin whenever they can get away with it.

But in reality, my brain is much better primed for learning the characters than for learning the sounds. Think of all the corporate logos you know. Think of all the icons on your computer desktop. Think of all the avatars for your friends on line. You don't have to spend time doing flash cards to memorize them. But they do start with something familiar, or they wouldn't have been chosen in the first place. They use Roman characters or familiar images as a basis for their unique identifying images. The people who design logos have to appeal to something they know will be familiar to you. The problem with Chinese characters is that we have no familiar anchors to start with.

This book addresses that problem. There may be thousands of characters, but there are a very limited number of recurring "radicals," as well as a number of other frequently occurring shapes. This method starts with basic recurring patterns and builds up from them. The actual stories may or may not be meaningful to me, of course. (I find it charming that Dr. Heisig couldn't see any connection between cowrie shells and female virginity, for instance. Whatever.) But the structure of introducing the radicals in an orderly way allows me to make my own stories.

Just a few chapters into the book, that same page of Chinese squiggles is exploding with meaningful shapes instead. I see many characters I already know, and many more that have familiar radicals within them.

But no way am I making up hundreds of paper flash cards! I use the Pleco app for iPad/iPhone, including the paid modules for flash card testing, character handwriting recognition, and pronunciation. It allows me the ability to decide what to show and what to guess among the items of character, pinyin, audio pronunciation, and definition. So to study Heisig, I have set my flash cards to show character and pinyin while pronouncing the sound, then I guess the definition. But as I become more familiar with the characters, I can even set it to require me to write the character in response to the sound or definition. It gives me an anchor on which to build as I learn the complete aspects of each character.

I would seriously recommend doing this book BEFORE starting a course in Mardarin. As people have mentioned, it's not structured in order of character frequency; it's structured by introducing new radicals one at a time. And it's not a replacement for a formal course in Mandarin. But it's an excellent way to prime your brain to absorb a lot of the new information that will be flooding in when you do start formal study. And seriously, buy something like Pleco for the flashcards.