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Remembering Simplified Hanzi 1: Book 1: How Not to Forget the Meaning and Writing of Chinese Characters (英语) 平装

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  • 语种: 英语
  • ISBN: 0824833236
  • 条形码: 9780824833237
  • 商品尺寸: 3.2 x 15.2 x 22.2 cm
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平均HASH(0xa29e2948) 星 works and it is fast 2009年11月29日
评论者 Amazon Customer - 已在美国亚马逊上发表
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This is a system for learning all 3000 Mandarin Chinese simplified characters. The most frequently used 1000 characters appear in the first volume of 1500 characters. Otherwise, the book is organized to provide a framework for remembering characters without any attempt to teach the most common characters first. The disadvantage is that horse and mama are characters 1453 and 1454 while they may be one of the first ten words you learn in other textbooks. You have to finish the book to get all the basic characters under your belt. The advantage is that you have a strictly logical framework to learn the characters and you learn them very fast and remember them.

Since, I probably could have learned the 1500 characters in 3 weeks if I had 8 hours per day to put into it, it's not such a big deal that basic characters come late.

Other books teach common words first, but at the expense of providing a strictly logical framework of radicals and concepts. The book is good because it sticks to the framework and the framework is an incredibly powerful tool to remember the characters.

I've seen criticism about the lack of pronunciation and they are silly.

1) The book suggests you to make flash cards (and that is essential to the method). It provides the pronunciations in an index which you could add to the flashcards. None of the other books like this provide more than that.

2) I am not really going to learn Chinese pronunciation from a book. I'm using videos and cd's for that.

I tried for a couple of weeks to learn chinese without this framework, and I could not keep any character straight for more than three days. So I don't see any way to learn Chinese without a framework.

My strategy is to learn a framework for remembering the English meaning of the characters early in the process. The book doesn't stand alone, but it isn't intended to. It is intended take one huge hurdle to learning Chinese (the alphabet is 3000 characters long!!!) off the table in a few weeks or months.

I've seen criticisms that the book doesn't include the most common words in the first book, and that is wrong.

The book doesn't work for my 6 year old because the stories and tag words target adults. We are using Tuttle and other methods with her. But if you are an educated adult and you want an intelligent and logical framework for remembering the meaning of Chinese characters that is really efficient, this is the book.

The book is based on techniques to memorize that are useful beyond chinese. It's a reasonably common method that incorporates visualization and stories, but applying it to this herculean task with such tremendous effects will give you new insight and appreciation into how your memory works. It is a fun and very interesting process. It is not a all like memorizing 1500 squiggly line patterns, which is where I started.

I have seen reviews misrepresent the facts or the purpose of the book and that motivated me to write this review. This is an excellent book. I am having a blast. I am learning Chinese at level and speed I never even hoped for when I started.
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平均HASH(0xa29e6630) 星 I learned 3000 characters in a year, 1 hour a day. 2013年8月22日
评论者 Mr Tyson R Dowd - 已在美国亚马逊上发表
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I used both Book 1 and Book 2 to learn 3000+ characters, in 1 year. I studied around 1 hour a day.
I used computerized flashcard system (Skritter) to practice the writing (this is a spaced repetition system - SRS).

A few months after finishing, I am able to read many Chinese sentences, signs, menus, etc and my speed of reading and writing continues to improve. Learning Chinese is not easy and has to be broken into pieces that can be tackled one at a time. Before, each new word was a nightmare to learn because the characters would be so hard to remember, having never seen them before and having no technique to learn them. If I saw characters on a sign or in a book or comic I had no chance to remember them unless I copied them immediately. Now when I learn a new word I almost always know the characters that combine to make it, and their meanings. Sometimes I stun my teacher by writing down, from memory, a word I've seen written somewhere, guessing at the meaning and asking her how to read it. So I feel now that the characters are largely under control and are my fiends, they are helping me while I focus my learning on the other pieces.

I find a lot mixed opinions on this book. They seem to be split into three camps.
1. Authors of other books on learning Chinese characters. They seem very biased.
2. People who are looking for help to learn really early beginner textbook characters (100-200 characters that show up in their integrated textbooks). This is not the right book (or not the right time for this book) for them. Actually beginners textbooks focus a lot of teaching common everyday sentences which use quite complex characters.
3. People who want to learn many (1000+) Chinese characters.

Basically Heisig is designed to help people in #3 category. The basic premise of this book is based on the memory building effect of *meaning*. That is, studies show it is easier for people to remember that John is a baker, than that John's last name is Baker. With baker we imagine flour, soft bread, wonderful smells. With Baker there is nothing to go with. This is that technique that world memory champions use (Read: Moonwalking with Einstein).

By taking the time to decompose the characters into components, you learn how to build up characters from pieces. He gives names to all the pieces, and the names have meanings, so you link a meaning witch each character and create a memorable story. It takes time to build this skill if you don't already have it but it is invaluable. I learned 3000 characters and have encountered many more and continue to use the technique.

The book does not address pinyin. A lot of people ask for this because they think this book is somehow going to teach them everything about Chinese in one shot. It doesn't. You need to learn the sounds of characters in context because characters have multiple sounds depending on meaning/context. If you have to memorize the pinyin with each character you will have to also learn 2-3 pronunciations for different characters, which means understanding how it's used in context (words/sentences).

If you want pinyin (it's useful if you are learning spoken Chinese simultaneously). A long time ago it was hard to find the pinyin for a character without a book, but now we have technology. You can download Heisig's list including pinyin, or use character input to write the character into any decent dictionary, or better still use an SRS system to drill yourself (can include pinyin, audio, etc) - all of this is included in Skritter's system for example. I just recommend you don't bother trying really hard to memorize them.

My experience is that it's very easy to associate the characters to their sounds once they are in context of words and sentences, especially when the character is already quite familiar to you. The hard part is learning to recognize and write all those characters.
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平均HASH(0xa30bf2dc) 星 Good Supplement, one thing lacking... 2012年11月21日
评论者 Jessica - 已在美国亚马逊上发表
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I'll keep this short and sweet. This book uses good descriptions for each character. The only thing lacking is PINYIN. For certain characters, you will have to look them up separately to find the pronunciation since it only includes the English definition, not the Mandarin pronunciation. Though, the book does not promise pinyin, it would just be helpful at times.

Other than that, the book is more or less what it promises. Bare in mind nothing comes without hard work.

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